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                          Abduction Digest, Number 81

                           Monday, December 14th 1992

     (C) Copyright 1992 Paranet Information Service.  All Rights Reserved.

Today's Topics:

                                Spheres and OOBEs
                                   Linda case
                                   Linda Case
                                    Re: Stats
                               Imaginary or Real?

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Spheres and OOBEs
Date: 6 Dec 92 23:33:00 GMT


DJ>     Abductees will also report seeing balls of light in their room  seconds
DJ>before an abduction.  In the same way they will often think that  they are
DJ>having an out of body experience when in fact they are being  floated up and
DJ>out of their room.  I have even had them "remember" that  they could "see"
DJ>their bodies still in the bed or chair while they  floated up.  Investigation
DJ>revealed that that was not the case.

Along those lines, we have what may be an important case here in Scottsdale -
important because we believe it to be a hoax. More precisely, we are
probably dealing with a well-intentioned but deranged mind.

This gentleman called our hotline to report that an object had landed and
left a trace in his front yard. We investigated, and during our interview he
reported all manner of mysterious happenings in his past, from a consciously
remembered abduction by a Moses-like being to spheres floating around his
room to poltergeist phenomena. Over the course of a few interviews it became
apparent that he believed himself to be psychic, and at one point predicted
that "they" would appear at a given place in Arizona on a certain Saturday,
and that we were welcome to drive up with him and take a look. We sent one
of our local members up with him, but nothing happened.

At one point this individual called us and told us that two men had stopped
by his house to look at the landing trace (a small circular patch of
retarded grass growth - samples on their way to CUFOS). He said they were
dressed "like Mormons" (conservative shirt and tie), and that they were
driving a black Ford Taurus. He went outside to ask them for ID, and when
they refused, he went in for his gun. When he came back out, they were gone.

Last week, he told us another man had come to gawk at the circle, and that
he called the police on him. The police arrived, talked to the man for a few
minutes, then came to the witness' door and told him it was alright, the
man was just a surveyor. A check with Scottsdale police shows no record of
a call from our witness on that morning. Ray Maurer, state director of
MUFON, performed the check with the police, and is an expert on police
computer dispatch systems. He states there is little likelihood that such a
call could be erased from the system. When he called the witness again and
asked him to step through the incident, the story changed so that the
policeman left without speaking to our witness. When confronted with this,
the witness hemmed and hawed, and no longer wished to talk about the
incident.

It is our belief, from the gentle nature of the witness and his seeming
desire for attention, that we have an example of someone who is lying about
his UFO experiences for reasons other than financial gain. We are handing
his case over to a qualified psychologist, but I believe it is important to
study such cases in order to get a feel for the "psychology of fabrication,"
so that we may better recognize it in other cases.

It is signficant to note that this individual was hypnotized and regressed
to a half-remembered incident in his childhood, where his mother said he
disappeared for a few hours. The regression brought out contact with
entities, but Ray Maurer, who performed the regression, did not recognize
them from any other accounts.  The entire incident did not "map" with
anything in the investigator's experience. This by itself is not grounds for
dismissing the case, obviously, but coupled with his other erratic behavior,
it is of interest and may impact on the question of how we distinguish
between "true" abductions and false memories or confabulation.

A full report of this case is in the works. Again, I feel it is just as
important to follow through on cases of this nature as it is to follow up on
those we suspect are "genuine."

Jim

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From: [e-mail] (David Jacobs)
Subject: Linda case
Date: 7 Dec 92 07:25:50 GMT


    John,
     Unfortunately, Budd does not have a book contract at the present time but
he is busy trying to put the enormous complexity of the case into logical order
in order to publish it.  This is a case that deserves a book to do it justice
and I hope that he eventually does publish it.  He is coming out with an
article in the next (?) MUFON UFO JOURNAL on one of the witnesses to the event.
After that, I hope that he can publish the material as a book. Budd has spent
nearly two years researching this case.  The amount of time and energy he has
put into it have been enormous.  As all serious UFO researchers know, you do
not go into this  line of endeavor to get rich.

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From: [e-mail] (Don Allen)
Subject: Linda Case
Date: 8 Dec 92 08:13:21 GMT


 +     The best that I can say is that when Budd completes his ongoing
 + investigation of this complex and extraordinarily important case you
 + will  all be able to judge for yourselves whether Hansen has asked
 + hard  questions.  Hold tight.  Give Budd the benefit of the doubt.
 + Hansen  knows very little about this case.

Ok, and thanks for the response.

Don

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Carter)
Subject: Re: Stats
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:49:00 GMT

Hi Jeff,
Sorry for the delay in responding. In answer to your question about
my conscious recall--it was somewhat detailed in certain parts and
more vague in others. During the encounter I felt that I did not
have full control over my body and felt somewhat groggy as if
drugged or controlled in some way. During hypnosis, most memories
and recall were in somewhat more vivid detail as I relivved the
events. Certainly the events were expounded upon under hypnosis as
blank spots were filled in that I had not recalled conscouisly. Some
of these memories turned out to be the kind that have never been
published in books or mags that researchers keep back as checks
against possilbe fabrication. Thanks for your interest.
Michael S. Carter
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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Brewi)
Subject: Imaginary or Real?
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:35:06 GMT

I have been reading a book called _The Evidence For ALien ABductions_
by John Rimmer C. 1984...

I would like to summarize and\or quote an experiment and the results.

The experiment was conducted by Alvin Lawson and William McCall.

The concept was to be able to distinguish the abduction info given
during hypnotic regression between a real abduction and a hoax(the
reason for the hoax for this particular experiment was irrelevent).
They wanted a database of info that could distinguish real data from
imaginary data.

"They began by locating a number of people who would be willing to
participate in their experiments, but who knew little or nothing about
UFOs - possibly a rather difficult task in Southern California where
they operated...These...subjects were then 'led into' a UFO abduction
scenario by means of a carefully designed series of leading questions,
which suggested the bare outlines of the abduction but left the subject
free to fill in the details. These details would come...from the
witnesses' own imaginations. They would then be able to compare the
imaginary abductions with th real events, and by a comparison of the
differences between the two, would be able to gain valuable clues to
use when trying to sort out any hoaxes in the cases that came to them
as UFO researchers."
One interjection here- how did they know that their supposed known- the
so-called 'real' abductions were in fact, real abductions? Not saying
the supposed real were not real, but no comment in the text
mentioned this point. I took the assumption that their real database
were witnesses who were not led into the abduction or prior cases,
possibly by other researchers.

"...But the experiments went spectacularly wrong...what happened was
that the 'imaginary' stories were quite indistinguishable from the
'real' experiences, even down to tiny details..."

The text then goes further into the stereotyped abductee, some of the
stories the witnesses gave, etc...until the text leads into the
researchers conclusion, "Birth Trauma Hypothesis."

The point here is it is very difficult to distinguish between an actual
abduction(if in fact they do occur) and the imagination.
 Possibly physical evidence(scarring etc...), but then who can prove
an alien lifeform is doing the abduction? Much can be inferred into a
mind through a prior programming which can come out in a later
regression.

I believe little to no headway has been made into the proof of alien
abductions, other than stories told by potential abductees, which could
be imagination or from other programming.


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